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POW*MIA U.S.N. CAPT. HARLEY HALL F- 4J - FIXED WING FIGHTER SHOT DOWN IN VIETNAM 27th JANUARY 1973 VANCOUVER, WA 98660

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MY TRIBUTE TO USN CAPT. HARLEY H. HALL

My adopted POW/MIA through Operation Just Cause is HARLEY H. HALL my hometown POW/MIA from Vancouver, Washington. HARLEY was the very last POW/MIA casualty of the Vietnam War., and the Vietnam Veterans of America the HALL - HOWELL Chapter #512 of Vancouver, Washington We salute you sir!" If you haven't adopted a POW/MIA through Operation Just Cause or any other organization yet then please do so today, you don't know what your missing if you don't, for this is a must!"

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HARLEY HUBERT HALL

Harley Hubert Hall

Captain
VF-143, CVW-14, USS ENTERPRISE
United States Navy
23 December 1937 - 29 February 1980
Vancouver, Washington
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In Memory of Harvey Hall
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As a native Vancouverite and Vietnam Veteran who lived in your neighborhood not far from your house in west Vancouver, Washington 98663. I pay tribute to my home town POW/MIA, on the behalf of the The Vietnam Veterans of America for Vancouver, Washington, Chapter 512. We Salute You, Sir!

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MARY HALL'S GRIEVANCE ON THE PENTAGON REPORT PAGE 4

 
                                               
                                        

                                                
                                    
                                                                             
                     
      
                                    
                                                                              
                                                                                                                
                                                   
QUALIFIED ACKNOWLEDGEMENT UNDER PROTEST FOR OBJECTIVITY AND TRUTH TO: Department of Defense
 FROM: Mary Louse Hall (Mrs. Harley Hall) DATE: September 13, 1993 RE: ALLEGED "ACCOUNTING" FOR
"REMAINS" OF POW HARLEY H. HALL, USN (3 FRONT TEETH) Dear Sirs: In response to the recent recovery of three
 of Captain Harley Hall's front teeth from the site of his downing and capture on 1/27/74 in Quang Tri Province, I
would like the following to go on record: While I acknowledge these to be three of my husband's correctly
identified teeth (confirmed by a dental expert, I object most strenuously to the inference that they constitute
evidence of death, and I by no means acknowledge or accept them as an accounting of the person of Harley H.
Hall. As such, they represent not only insufficient evidence for case closure, but more importantly, BLATANTLY
CONTRADICT ALL UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT ASSERTIONS AND INTELLIGENCE ON THE HARLEY HALL CASE.
 Specifically, various U.S. agencies have consistently maintained that the could NOT POSSIBLY have died AT THAT
 SITE, i.e. Quang Tri, an inference drawn from multiple references of captivity elsewhere. Apart from the obvious
fact that adults frequently lose teeth, which was notorious among POW's, the condition of the teeth, the fact that
 they are front teeth, and especially the LOCATION of discovery all point to a more obvious or plausible
explanation. Namely, Capt. Harley Hall was either punched, received a blow to the mouth by his captors, these
teeth were extracted, or fell out due to malnutrition and poor care. As to the location of his alleged "death":
NAVAL INTELLIGENCE: Naval Intelligence informed me two weeks after his downing that Harley had been
captured - an absolute certainty based on first hand sensitive intelligence. It was the U.S. Government itself that
had the information to change his status to Category I: Capture Confirmed (early documents sent to me under
the Freedom of Information Act indicated all four crewmen in Quang Tri incidents that day were captured. Capt.
Hall remained in Category 1-POW status-for a full seven years (1973-1980) until all such cases except Charles
Shelton, USAF, were altered to "PFOD" (Presumptive Finding of Death). DR. ROGER SHEILDS: It soon became
evident that Harley was not only captured, but had arrived at a prison site of some sort. I was personally told by
 POW/MIA expert Dr. Roger Shields that Harley's was "one of the compelling, if not THE most compelling case of
capture he had ever reviewed." "They are holding your husband, Mrs. Hall, one way or another." (the inference
clearly being "dead or alive") "and they can answer for him and never settle for anything LESS." THE NATIONAL
SECURITY AGENCY: NSA files have subsequently revealed that Capt. Hall was tracked from battalion to battalion
to a particular PRISON CAMP ON THE VIETNAMESE/LAO BORDER, hence NOT in Quang Tri Province. DEFENSE
INTELLIGENCE AGENCY REPORT: On 13 July 1988, the DIA issued an analysis of Vietnamese reports to General
Vessey about an "unrecoverable body" in the Quang Tri area which had fallen "into a trench." DIA analysis
countered that this "answer" was totally unacceptable, and that the SRV report was a concoction "implausible
and in conflict with their known policies and practices" regarding Americans. The area was heavily patrolled by
North Vietnamese troops who would not have to resort to local villagers to account for an American downed
under their noses (see attached). Next, local "witnesses" began to tell of an American body, allegedly Harley's
"buried there," but digging teams repeatedly found nothing. But now the sudden turnover of three teeth from
Quang Tri is viewed as a "resolution," while in fact they in no way mitigate the U.S. Government's previous
objection to this story and insistence that Capt. Hall could not have died there, let alone be buried in an
unrecorded spot. CLASSIFIED U.S. FILES: This summer (1993) I returned to Washington, D.C. to review all
pertinent files, including classified material accessible to families. This reinforced my previous conclusion and
added the STUNNING NEW REVELATION that Harley Hall had been INTERROGATED BY THE SOVIETS (which, I
hasten to point out, could not have happened had he "died" in the area where his teeth were allegedly lost and
 recovered twenty years later!) This is a startling contradiction to the U.S. Government's present bland
acceptance of his "death" in the Quang Tri area shortly after being shot down. REFUGEE STATEMENTS: I realize
less credence is given to "hearsay" from Vietnamese, but it is no secret that about the time of my husband's
downing and capture, there was frequent recounting of and bragging about "the parading of a big Blue Angel" in
Vietnam, possibly through Hanoi. Cases of misidentification and case closing on insufficient evidence are not new
or unique to my husband's case, but all of the above shows me that the United States Government's "highest
national priority" in this area is to shorten if not eliminate the missing list and close the book on as many
discrepancy cases as possible, even if it means a completely false burial of hundreds of Americans -- all to
expunge the past, achieve a hasty and slipshod "accounting" and facilitate lucrative and politically expedient
relations with Hanoi. As for the incredible statement that 'we have no information which would indicate Capt. Hall
 survived to become a captive of the Vietnamese, one need only consider every other agency cited here, and
Harley's official POW status, to perceive a gross discrepancy and untruth. Some cases are genuinely resolved. My
 close friend, Carleen Blackburn, received almost full skeletal remains of her husband (notably with FOUR FRONT
TEETH MISSING). Other cases are not, and perhaps never can or will be resolved. But the most unfortunate and
painful of all are the FALSELY RESOLVED CASES. Thus, after twenty years of almost unbearable limbo and
uncertainty, I may now face the worst possible case scenario: an eternal limbo, still not knowing. The three teeth
 only reinforce the intelligence on capture, while the U.S. Government prepare to call the case "resolved" and
cease even trying to account. Such a FALSE ANSWER IS WORSE THAN NONE, leaving me with less peace than
before, not more! I do not reject receiving the three teeth, nor will I take legal action against their identification,
because they are indeed Harley's teeth and constitute all I have of my husband at the present moment. Had
 they been presented in the spirit of further clues or evidence in Harley's case, and not as an unwarranted
"accounting" and resolution of "death," I would even welcome them as one small clue to the mystery of what
happened to him in captivity. Be assured that my protest does NOT stem from "wishful thinking, hoping against
hope" or reluctance or refusal to accept death as an inevitable/probably outcome. For years, I have imagined,
 longed for and even dreamed of the day when I could hold a proper memorial service for Harley when his earthly
 remains could rest in U.S. soil. Then his children and I could experience the peace of knowing, and begin to close
the long chapter of grief. But to grant burial with full military honors and a full size coffin to three front teeth
would not only be ridiculous, but represent acquiesce in a lie. Considering the above, I protest the closure of
Harley's case in the strongest possible terms, and implore you to leave his name on the honored list of
unaccounted for Americans, specifically the "focus" POW cases where he was listed in the first place. (Otherwise,
 his name will wrongfully appear on the "remains returned" list, and many thoughtful Americans will assume that
this notorious case is finally resolved/settled.) To do otherwise on the basis of incomplete and misleading
"remains" of three teeth is a travesty and an affront to the truth, as well as yet another blow to the families who
 have fought so valiantly (and had their faith so badly shaken) in this cause. This is the least you owe to the men
who served and those of us who have paid so high a price. (signed) Mary Louse Hall, Wife Capt. Harley H. Hall,
 USN +++Capt. Harley Hall is still listed by the United States Government as "remains returned."+++ Back to
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I'AM THE POW, I'AM THE MIA

THE POW-MIA

I’m just a nameles silhouette; nobody knows my face,
Though many of you pray for me each day;
The man you said you won. t forget, in a dark and distant place.

I am the POW; I am the MIA.

I am a Navy pilot; I am a dead Marine;
I am the wounded grunt they couldn. t find.
But I’m living still, and I. m long dead,

and I. m somewhere in between,

 And I can. t believe that I was left behind.  

They killed me in an ambush, and they captured me alive,
And I died when my Huey crashed and burned.
They over-ran my unit, but I managed to survive,
And they brought me North in chains when they returned.

  

They beat me and they whipped me, and they worked me .

 

til I dropped. To break my will, they made their best endeavor. When great despair had gripped me, still the torture never stopped, And they told me: . We can keep you here forever..

  

They told me that my parents died, that my kids were grown

 

and gone; And my wife lost hope, and married

 

my best friend. But there. s a prayer hold inside, that helps

 

me to go on: That someone still remembers, and you. ll bring me Home again.v

   

I’m just a nameless silhouette; nobody knows my face,
Though many of you pray for me each day;The man you said

 

you won.t forget, in a dark and distant place.

    I am the POW; I am the MIA.  

Tim Murphy �. 1986

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MY EDITORIAL: "WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO HARLEY HALL???"

Additional evidence was forthcoming. During a "one time good deal" arranged by Defense Intelligence Agency, Mrs. Hall and another Vietnam widow gained access to their husband's declassified files. Hall's file was huge -- nearly a foot thick -- and contained much of what Mary Lou had seen before. Intercepted Vietnamese radio messages tracked Hall from battalion to battalion after his shootdown, and there was mention of "a big Blue Angel" being paraded in Hanoi. "Harley was well known because he'd led the Navy's flight demonstration team on an Asian tour in 1970 or 1971," Mrs. Hall explains.
Beyond the previous data, one document shocked Mary Lou Hall: A report that her husband had been interrogated by Soviet officials, presumably in Hanoi. No paper or pens were permitted in the secure reading room, but she memorized the document by date and origin, and then filed a request for its release. Eventually DIA replied that no such report could be found. The real conclusion I'am guessing that Moscow Agents the KGB came and took him to Moscow for further interrigation because of his most high military profile being the Captain of the Navy lue Angels and that would answer your question why the Viet Cong hung a sign around Harley's neck saying "i'am a Big Blue Angel" The NVA and VC obviously found ths information first and because of thhe importance of the Military information that could still be gathered at the time the North Vietnamese called Moscow to send the Russian KGB out from Moscow for further interrigation. Is my educated guess and was probably beaten to death and most likely has died in Russia and that's why the body was never found and the case was never solved. Editorial by Author and the Leagal Guardian through OPERATION JUST CAUSE That all additional information must be true ao this i why I wrote this Editorial ... Thank you ......Greg Payne

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