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My adopted POW/MIA through Operation Just Cause is HARLEY H. HALL my hometown POW/MIA from Vancouver, Washington. HARLEY was the very last POW/MIA casualty of the Vietnam War., and the Vietnam Veterans of America the HALL - HOWELL Chapter #512 of Vancouver, Washington We salute you sir!" If you haven't adopted a POW/MIA through Operation Just Cause or any other organization yet then please do so today, you don't know what your missing if you don't, for this is a must!"

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HARLEY HUBERT HALL

Harley Hubert Hall

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VF-143, CVW-14, USS ENTERPRISE
United States Navy
23 December 1937 - 29 February 1980
Vancouver, Washington
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In Memory of Harvey Hall
You Are Not Forgotten

As a native Vancouverite and Vietnam Veteran who lived in your neighborhood not far from your house in west Vancouver, Washington 98663. I pay tribute to my home town POW/MIA, on the behalf of the The Vietnam Veterans of America for Vancouver, Washington, Chapter 512. We Salute You, Sir!

Gregory Payne
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CAPTIAN HARLEY HUBERT HALL POW PARADED IN HANOI STREET BY THE NORTH VIETNAMESE - LABELED "THE BIG BLUE ANGEL." Page 3

      
                                    
                   
               
                                                                   NEW PHOTO 5/1/02
 CLICK HERE to see a photo of Capt. Hall when he was a Lieutenant Commander and the Boss of the Blue Angels. This photo
was taken by and is from the collection of Ron Rentfrow, who was one of the team photographers at that time.

"No other returned POW reported having knowledge of Harley 

Hall, yet the Pentagon maintained him in POW status for over 6

 years, and documents were obtained that indicated he was 

indeed capture. In fact, there were reports of the Viet Cong 

bragging about parading a "Big Blue Angel" through 

the streets of Hanoi."   

  (THIS STATEMENT WAS TRUE I PERSONALLY SAW THE

 COMMUNIST RELEASE FILM ON THE 6:00 NEWS IN THE 1970'S

FROM THE VIET CONG IN HANOI, SHOWING THREE  DOWNED 

 PILOTS, HANDS TIED   BEHIND THEIR BACKS ,V.C. GUARDS 

WITH FIXED BAYONETS TO THEIR BACKS AT WHAT LOOKED 

LIKE ABOUT 2:00AM IN THE MORNING.  THEIR FACES WERE 

BEATEN BEYOND RECOGNITION  THE MIDDLE MAN HAD

A SIGN HANGING AROUND HIS NECK READING, 

"I'AM A BIG BLUE  ANGEL" WHILE THE CITIZENS OF

HANOI WOULD RUN UP TO THEM SPITTING IN 

THEIR FACES WHILE OTHERS THREW POP BOTTLES,

BEER BOTTLES, AND SHOUTED OBSCENITIES  IN

VIETNAMESE AND SHOOK THEIR FISTS.  I HAD THE

 SISTER FILM POSTED ON THIS SITE BUT WAS REMOVED 

BY HANOI FOR SECURITY REASONS.


                             
                                                                             
            
                                                                              

NEW PHOTO 5/1/02 CLICK HERE to see a photo of Capt. Hall when he was a Lieutenant Commander and the
Boss of the Blue Angels. This photo was taken by and is from the collection of Ron Rentfrow, who was one of the
 team photographers at that time. Serving with the Blue Angels is "heady" stuff..... There are honors and
 accolades for all the hard work that goes into putting the airshow together. But, the public should never forget
 that these are regular Navy and Marine personnel. They came from other regular Navy and Marine Squadrons,
 and they will return to others, serving their country well wherever they serve. Serving his country well, and
 being willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for her was the life Harley Hall was led to when he became the last
 casualty of the Vietnam War -- and his fate is still not yet known. It has been a source of great frustration for
 friends, family, and for all of us concerned with the loss of Americans not yet accounted for by our Government
and the government of Vietnam. Here, briefly is his story: CMDR. Harley Hubert Hall was the commanding officer
 of Fighter Squadron 143 onboard the Aircraft Carrier U.S.S. Enterprise. On January 27, 1973, he and his RIO,
 LCDR. Philip A. Kientzler launched their F-4J Phantom on an attack mission against North Vietnamese supplies
 and logistic vehicles 15 miles northwest of Quang Tri, South Vietnam. CMDR. Hall's aircraft came under intense
 anti-aircraft fire while attacking several trucks and was hit. He made an attempt to fly back to the safety of the
 sea, but minutes later the aircraft caught fire on the port wing and fuselage. Both CMDR. Hall and LCDR.
 Kientzler ejected at 4,000 feet and were seen to land 100 feet apart near a village on an island in the Dam Cho
 Chua and Cua Viet Rivers. CMDR. Hall was seen moving about on the ground, discarding his chute. No voice
 contact was made with the men, and the probability of immediate capture was considered very high. Numerous
 aircraft made several passes over the area for the next several hours and were unsuccessful in observing either
 of the downed crewmen. Several emergency beepers were heard intermittently the remainder of the afternoon
 and throughout the night; however, no voice contact was established. Active organized search and rescue
 efforts were subsequently terminated. Only LCDR. Kientzler was released at "Operation Homecoming" in 1973.
 He reported that during parachute descent, they received heavy groundfire, at which time he was hit in the leg.
 He last saw CMDR. Hall as they touched the ground. When he asked his guards about his pilot, he was told that
 he was killed by another. No other returned POW reported having knowledge of Harley Hall, yet the Pentagon
 maintained him in POW status for over 6 years, and documents were obtained that indicated he was indeed
 capture. In fact, there were reports of the Viet Cong bragging about parading a "Big Blue Angel" through the
 streets of Hanoi. The Hanoi government, however, claims to have no knowledge of CMDR. Harley Hall. Harley Hal
l was shot down on the last day of the war and was the last Navy casualty of the Vietnam War. He was the last
 American to be classified Prisoner of War in the Vietnam War. FROM A REPORT OF THE DEFENSE INTELLGENCE
 AGENCY WASHINGTON, D.C. 20340 On 13 July 1988, during a remains repatriation ceremony in Hanoi,
 representatives of the Vietnamese Office For Seeking Missing Persons furnished Joint Casualty Resolution
 Center officials with six written investigative reports. In the case of CMDR. Harley Hall, USN, the report claims
 that a "team" as well as two "VNOSMP" specialists visited the location where the Navy officer was lost,
 researched historical documents in the villages, and talked to "individuals directly related to this incident."
 According to the report, LCDR. Phillip Kientzler was captured. The other commander was found dead and buried
 in a trench. The investigative team claims to have visited the gravesite and observed that it had been exhumed
 and the remains taken. The local populace allegedly told the team that "from about 1981-1982 up until the
 present time, many people from different areas came to rob the grave, a total of as many as eight occasions,
 the most recent being February 1988. Because of this, nothing is left in the gravesite to be recovered. The local
 authorities carried out an investigation concerning the grave robbery but without results." The report concludes
 with the comment that the investigative team is not able to recover the remains of this pilot. While we have no
 information which would indicate that CMDR. Hall survived to become a captive of the Vietnamese, the claims
 made by the Socialist Republic of Vietnam (SRV) authorities regarding this incident stretch credulity and totally
 contradict their known policies and practices in handling remains of Americans based upon all-source intelligence
 collection efforts over a period spanning more than two decades. We can state with certainty that there is a
 centrally administered program, which outlines strict procedures for handling the remains of Americans.
 Throughout the war, the Communist forces enforced a policy to find and bury Americans killed in action, and
 captured enemy documents continually stressed that this effort was important to the "political struggle." The
 procedures required that a full written report on the incident be prepared, to include a sketch of the burial

location. When possible, photos of the Americans were to be forwarded with the written report up the chain of
 command to Hanoi. Americans were buried in marked graves in well defined (if primitive by U.S. standards)
 cemeteries. Buried with them would be a paper, which included the American's name, date, place and cause of
 death. This procedure was also followed in burying Vietnamese soldiers killed in battle. Vietnamese public health
 laws require that remains be buried for at least three years before they are exhumed (a common Vietnamese
 practice) and reinterred in a final location. In the case of many Americans, after being buried for three years or
 more, remains were properly prepared and stored in a warehouse type situation. In the specific instance of
 CMDR. Hall, if indeed he died at the time of his loss incident, one must presume that the outlined procedures
 were followed and he was not simply buried in a convenient nearby trench. Further, the area where he was lost
 was under the control of combat troops at the time, which calls into question the Vietnamese claim that it was
 necessary to review village historical documents (which probably do not exist) and talk to villagers allegedly
 involved in the incident. Further, had villagers been interviewed and local documents researched, the VNOSMP
 representatives would have certainly discovered information on the two Americans who were lost in this same
 area only minutes after Commander Hall's aircraft was downed. In summary, the report furnished by the SRV is
 implausible and in direct conflict with their known policies and procedures. Based on the circumstances of CMDR.
 Hall's loss, we believe the communist government of Vietnam has information and for reasons known only to
 them has decided to concoct this story instead. Capt. Harley Hall Declared Dead In accordance with federal law,
 Capt. Harley Hall (a promotion given during his POW/MIA status) was declared deceased on February 28, 1980.
 In 1995, 22 years after the "shootdown," Hanoi returned "partial remains" tentatively identified as Capt. Harley
 Hall, USN. Mary Lou Hall, lacking confidence in the government's handling of her husband's case, had
 independent forensic experts examine the "remains" -- which were only a few tiny bone fragments and three
 teeth. The report was stunning: "There is no natural phenomenon that tooth No. 5 (and possibly the others)
 could have been naturally exfoliated with one exception -- CAPT. Hall lived far beyond the incident, thereby
 allowing severe peridontitis to occur and the bone resorption to become so severe that exfoliation could very
 easily have occurred." Dr. F.N. Powers added that Hall's 1972 dental X-rays showed no periodontal disease.
 Based on forensic benchmarks, it was estimated that Hall's teeth showed between two and three years of
 periodontal evidence! Additionally, during a one time special arrangement by the Defense Intelligence Agency,
 Mrs. Hall and other Vietnam widows gained access to their husband's declassified files. Mary Lou Hall discovered
 that her husband's file was nearly a foot thick!!! It contained copies of intercepted Vietnamese radio messages
 which tracked Hall from battalion to battalion after his shootdown, and there was mention of "a big Blue Angel"
 being paraded in Hanoi. "Harley was well known because he'd led the Navy's flight demonstration team on an
 Asian tour in 1970 or 1971," Mrs. Hall explains. BUT, beyond this data, one document shocked Mrs. Hall even
 more: A report that her husband had been interrogated by SOVIET OFFICIALS, presumably in Hanoi. Thus,
 evidence definitely exists pointing to the fact that CAPT. Harley Hall definitely was not dead within hours of his
 shootdown, as the North Vietnamese government would have us believe. AND, teeth which could have been
 extracted from a "living" Harley Hall hardly constitutes evidence of death. Despite all this, Capt. Harley Hall is
 now listed as killed in action and "remains returned." LINK TO Mrs. Mary Lou Hall's Memo to the Department of
 Defense LINK TO Photos of the Dedication of the Harley H. Hall Building in Vancouver, Washington - July 14, 2000
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I’m just a nameles silhouette; nobody knows my face,
Though many of you pray for me each day;
The man you said you won. t forget, in a dark and distant place.

I am the POW; I am the MIA.

I am a Navy pilot; I am a dead Marine;
I am the wounded grunt they couldn. t find.
But I’m living still, and I. m long dead,

and I. m somewhere in between,

 And I can. t believe that I was left behind.  

They killed me in an ambush, and they captured me alive,
And I died when my Huey crashed and burned.
They over-ran my unit, but I managed to survive,
And they brought me North in chains when they returned.

  

They beat me and they whipped me, and they worked me .

 

til I dropped. To break my will, they made their best endeavor. When great despair had gripped me, still the torture never stopped, And they told me: . We can keep you here forever..

  

They told me that my parents died, that my kids were grown

 

and gone; And my wife lost hope, and married

 

my best friend. But there. s a prayer hold inside, that helps

 

me to go on: That someone still remembers, and you. ll bring me Home again.v

   

I’m just a nameless silhouette; nobody knows my face,
Though many of you pray for me each day;The man you said

 

you won.t forget, in a dark and distant place.

    I am the POW; I am the MIA.  

Tim Murphy �. 1986

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MY EDITORIAL: "WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO HARLEY HALL???"

Additional evidence was forthcoming. During a "one time good deal" arranged by Defense Intelligence Agency, Mrs. Hall and another Vietnam widow gained access to their husband's declassified files. Hall's file was huge -- nearly a foot thick -- and contained much of what Mary Lou had seen before. Intercepted Vietnamese radio messages tracked Hall from battalion to battalion after his shootdown, and there was mention of "a big Blue Angel" being paraded in Hanoi. "Harley was well known because he'd led the Navy's flight demonstration team on an Asian tour in 1970 or 1971," Mrs. Hall explains.
Beyond the previous data, one document shocked Mary Lou Hall: A report that her husband had been interrogated by Soviet officials, presumably in Hanoi. No paper or pens were permitted in the secure reading room, but she memorized the document by date and origin, and then filed a request for its release. Eventually DIA replied that no such report could be found. The real conclusion I'am guessing that Moscow Agents the KGB came and took him to Moscow for further interrigation because of his most high military profile being the Captain of the Navy lue Angels and that would answer your question why the Viet Cong hung a sign around Harley's neck saying "i'am a Big Blue Angel" The NVA and VC obviously found ths information first and because of thhe importance of the Military information that could still be gathered at the time the North Vietnamese called Moscow to send the Russian KGB out from Moscow for further interrigation. Is my educated guess and was probably beaten to death and most likely has died in Russia and that's why the body was never found and the case was never solved. Editorial by Author and the Leagal Guardian through OPERATION JUST CAUSE That all additional information must be true ao this i why I wrote this Editorial ... Thank you ......Greg Payne

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